I wouldn’t mind bringing up past IPs for nostalgia sake but they are entirely used as a skin suit for modern cynical corporate cash-ins and not honest attempts at art. Especially when a lot of IPs deserve a second chance now that they have had a second chance via modern social media analysis. The fact that something like Godhand which like many pieces of entertainment was criminally overlooked and should get another shot is something that would be cool. But knowing Capcom like many other companies, it’s rare that there isn’t some kind of monkey paw effect involved.
Interesting that you bring up Godhand. I'd had no idea that game existed until a good friend who is also a retro gamer showed it to me a few years back. It is indeed fascinating what sticks and what slips through the cracks.
It's a real shame that it was overlooked but like a lot of the height of Capcom's creative output, a lot of it got overlooked and underappreciated for many years. Unfortunately, I think like Haunting Ground, Viewtiful Joe and Monster Hunter, it was a bit too ahead of its time and very strange for the design philosophy at the time. Now with more and better social media analysis, we can look back at games that were scoffed at because they weren't edgy, filled with guns, nudity, had graphic violence or whatever was the general eye-catching gimmicks at the time.
Nah. Like with most of your takes you miss a lot. Not wrong, just unaware of certain information, so they sit midway along the bell curve. you're just a *little* bit farther along the bell curve than the usual "dissident right" talking head. Still haven't crested the peak though.
One thing you miss is that multiple people noted repeatedly for 100 years that technology "increased by a century each decade" during the devil's century (1917-2017). One could easily note that each decade of the devil's century would have naturally corresponded to a century of culture as well, if things were not being artificially forced.
In other words: your premise is based in a bad perception of how things should be, and what you whinge about is how things should be. you are experiencing time (for the first time) at a normal pace and are only used to the artificial acceleration; you are unplugged from "the matrix" for the first time and are finding Reality unsettling to the "hyperreality" you were born in to. "if only things were faster, like they SHOULD be!" unaware how unnatural your take is. Ones born of the machine have a hard time acclimating to the real world, especially when unaware of the whole situation (made even worse if the subject BELIEVES he is aware of the whole situation).
What happened between 1990-2000 SHOULD have been 100 years if the devil didn't artificially speed things up in his failure and rage to try to "destroy" The Church. 5 generations, a generation is 20 years, five generations separates History from modernity, which is why the devil requested his "hour" of God's "Day" to be "five generations" or 100 years or one century.
If anything "the left" is acclimating to this change exceptionally well, as they are personally weak and therefore "go with the flow" better without needing to know where or why their stimuli come from. Again, bell curve. Those on the bottom and the top end in the same place with the middle languishing.
The 1990's were a great time. the powers and principalities of the devil were routed, evil was in a panic to push itself as hard as possible without revealing itself, people were fighting back and shoving all evil into their strongholds to leave the fields to Us.
Only 10-20 years before the devil was annihilated in 2009.
Only 20-30 years before the demons were locked up in 2017.
Only 30-40 years before The Three Days in darkness in 2029.
Only 31-41 years before The Fifth Age begins.
A calm in the eye of the storm you today are about to be forced to lick the buzzsaw of. Who wouldn't want to go back, at least to the good parts of it?
Even in your other linked article you point out how music was artificially stifled at a decade's end.
1980's rock was guillotined in the 1990's for a host of reasons, and what replaced it had nothing to do with what came before. To "go back" to 80's rock would not be for "nostalgia" or "to relive the good old days," it would be to try to continue a cut thread. There is no modern lineage of 80's rock because it was murdered in 1992 without bearing children.
In order to continue that lineage you would have to go back, pick up the cut thread, try as you might to tie a new, modern thread to the old, and then to continue from there. This involves the "growing pains" of "looking retro" in the meantime.
Worst things to do:
1) sneer at attempts to continue what worked as just "nostalgia" bait (bonus points if you obliviously bitch immediately after why there is "no good media anymore!") as if we must be Permanently cut off from Tradition for the sake of "the eternal now" of satanism.
2) be a boomer and FORCE all goldmining of the past to stagnate EXACTLY as they were, to never change or modernize or "evolve" (in The Catholic sense), which is arguably worse than not trying at all.
The former is like complaining that a fat person running is futile, or that you have to "live in the woods" for a few weeks after you buy new land. Ignoring that things take time, and that the house will eventually be built. The transitional period where you will HAVE to "look and be cringe" is unavoidable part of the process, or the old statement you get in art school "ALL paintings have an ugly phase."
Denying the cringe, forcing people to be stuck in the past (or, worse, your past) and not allowing time to once-again do what it Naturally does to things that were cut short by evil, all these spit upon our forefathers trials and successes as much as the people who wanted to replace The Mass Of Trent with freemasonry.
Be cringe.
Find out what worked and continue it.
The funny thing is that you do this yourself with your "old school mecha but new" books, so it's a bit silly to prod at people who try to do the same with other things that they liked just as much as you like your macross and early gundam.
Cliff: Welcome back to our live coverage of the Neverending Slop Tornado. We're on Day 3,547 - Brian, how's it looking out there?
Brian: Well Cliff, it's looking pretty grim. We're on our second wave of 90's nostalgia, and this time they're going to charge us rent for playing Pogs hahahahahahaha I'M IN HELL PLEASE LET ME DIE PLEASE JUST -
Cliff: Thanks for that, Brian. Moving on to the new Taylor Swift/Charlie XCX combo album release...
I'm going to have to disagree wit you ion the aughts and lack of memorable content. What happened is that the shift moved from the box office to the small screen. This is when cable networks created their own series and they made some DAMNED good ones. The mid 2000's thru the early 2010's had some of the best small screen fiction ever made. They included
A good number of those shows began in the late 90s though.
And it says a lot that, apart from Breaking Bad, Sex and the City, and Sopranos, nothing else has stuck in terms of pop cultural impact after they've ended. And South Park has spent the past few years Committing sudoku for previous episodes.
I think it's telling how the oughts were just the Bastard continuation of the 90s when a lot of the new material for these shows is just pablum and propaganda from Big Media on favor of Death Cult imperatives.
The story's point wasn't just about what's stuck but an over all lack of creativity/quality or at least that's what I got from it. I believe the regular repeat viewing of these on streaming platforms also makes them more prevalent today than you're giving them credit for. I believe the bigger issue is a loss across all of entertainment in general especially with music which did seem to go downhill starting then,
As I said the ought's had some incredible small screen content and just b/c a show started at the end of the 90s that doesn't make it a 90's show. I also don't believe as many of these are a part of the 90s as you think. I got this list from looking for top cable network shows in the 2000's followed by top network shows.
Lastly, I believe the lack of being able to monetize on these as they have past generations is less about the content and more about a change in attitudes. People used to by physical products, today they just stream. That's a HUGE change in consumer habits. The film industry use to could count on really good sell-thru post box office release via VHS then DVD and finally BluRay but not today. Even with people paying to stream something they still aren't doing it to the some volume as when they'd by a movie
That's attributing something to these shows that simply doesn't exist.
You could have made an argument if you pointed out how Treasure Planet and Megamind became pop culturally relevant in the current epoch while missing the boat entirely during their premier's, but there's functionally nothing different from these movies with the animated films and series of the 00s.
For some reason the anti-rationalist posted but must have since deleted some replies to my comment b/c I have the email alerts but the replies are missing and its a shame b/c regardless if I agree with them or not they made some good points.
You can have my flying toaster screen saver when you pry it from my cold dead fingers....
I wouldn’t mind bringing up past IPs for nostalgia sake but they are entirely used as a skin suit for modern cynical corporate cash-ins and not honest attempts at art. Especially when a lot of IPs deserve a second chance now that they have had a second chance via modern social media analysis. The fact that something like Godhand which like many pieces of entertainment was criminally overlooked and should get another shot is something that would be cool. But knowing Capcom like many other companies, it’s rare that there isn’t some kind of monkey paw effect involved.
Interesting that you bring up Godhand. I'd had no idea that game existed until a good friend who is also a retro gamer showed it to me a few years back. It is indeed fascinating what sticks and what slips through the cracks.
It's a real shame that it was overlooked but like a lot of the height of Capcom's creative output, a lot of it got overlooked and underappreciated for many years. Unfortunately, I think like Haunting Ground, Viewtiful Joe and Monster Hunter, it was a bit too ahead of its time and very strange for the design philosophy at the time. Now with more and better social media analysis, we can look back at games that were scoffed at because they weren't edgy, filled with guns, nudity, had graphic violence or whatever was the general eye-catching gimmicks at the time.
I think it's about consistency - the 90s was the last period where the culture had a unique style and was competent enough to leave an impression.
Nah. Like with most of your takes you miss a lot. Not wrong, just unaware of certain information, so they sit midway along the bell curve. you're just a *little* bit farther along the bell curve than the usual "dissident right" talking head. Still haven't crested the peak though.
One thing you miss is that multiple people noted repeatedly for 100 years that technology "increased by a century each decade" during the devil's century (1917-2017). One could easily note that each decade of the devil's century would have naturally corresponded to a century of culture as well, if things were not being artificially forced.
In other words: your premise is based in a bad perception of how things should be, and what you whinge about is how things should be. you are experiencing time (for the first time) at a normal pace and are only used to the artificial acceleration; you are unplugged from "the matrix" for the first time and are finding Reality unsettling to the "hyperreality" you were born in to. "if only things were faster, like they SHOULD be!" unaware how unnatural your take is. Ones born of the machine have a hard time acclimating to the real world, especially when unaware of the whole situation (made even worse if the subject BELIEVES he is aware of the whole situation).
What happened between 1990-2000 SHOULD have been 100 years if the devil didn't artificially speed things up in his failure and rage to try to "destroy" The Church. 5 generations, a generation is 20 years, five generations separates History from modernity, which is why the devil requested his "hour" of God's "Day" to be "five generations" or 100 years or one century.
If anything "the left" is acclimating to this change exceptionally well, as they are personally weak and therefore "go with the flow" better without needing to know where or why their stimuli come from. Again, bell curve. Those on the bottom and the top end in the same place with the middle languishing.
The 1990's were a great time. the powers and principalities of the devil were routed, evil was in a panic to push itself as hard as possible without revealing itself, people were fighting back and shoving all evil into their strongholds to leave the fields to Us.
Only 10-20 years before the devil was annihilated in 2009.
Only 20-30 years before the demons were locked up in 2017.
Only 30-40 years before The Three Days in darkness in 2029.
Only 31-41 years before The Fifth Age begins.
A calm in the eye of the storm you today are about to be forced to lick the buzzsaw of. Who wouldn't want to go back, at least to the good parts of it?
As an addendum, let's talk about music.
Even in your other linked article you point out how music was artificially stifled at a decade's end.
1980's rock was guillotined in the 1990's for a host of reasons, and what replaced it had nothing to do with what came before. To "go back" to 80's rock would not be for "nostalgia" or "to relive the good old days," it would be to try to continue a cut thread. There is no modern lineage of 80's rock because it was murdered in 1992 without bearing children.
In order to continue that lineage you would have to go back, pick up the cut thread, try as you might to tie a new, modern thread to the old, and then to continue from there. This involves the "growing pains" of "looking retro" in the meantime.
Worst things to do:
1) sneer at attempts to continue what worked as just "nostalgia" bait (bonus points if you obliviously bitch immediately after why there is "no good media anymore!") as if we must be Permanently cut off from Tradition for the sake of "the eternal now" of satanism.
2) be a boomer and FORCE all goldmining of the past to stagnate EXACTLY as they were, to never change or modernize or "evolve" (in The Catholic sense), which is arguably worse than not trying at all.
The former is like complaining that a fat person running is futile, or that you have to "live in the woods" for a few weeks after you buy new land. Ignoring that things take time, and that the house will eventually be built. The transitional period where you will HAVE to "look and be cringe" is unavoidable part of the process, or the old statement you get in art school "ALL paintings have an ugly phase."
Denying the cringe, forcing people to be stuck in the past (or, worse, your past) and not allowing time to once-again do what it Naturally does to things that were cut short by evil, all these spit upon our forefathers trials and successes as much as the people who wanted to replace The Mass Of Trent with freemasonry.
Be cringe.
Find out what worked and continue it.
The funny thing is that you do this yourself with your "old school mecha but new" books, so it's a bit silly to prod at people who try to do the same with other things that they liked just as much as you like your macross and early gundam.
Cliff: Welcome back to our live coverage of the Neverending Slop Tornado. We're on Day 3,547 - Brian, how's it looking out there?
Brian: Well Cliff, it's looking pretty grim. We're on our second wave of 90's nostalgia, and this time they're going to charge us rent for playing Pogs hahahahahahaha I'M IN HELL PLEASE LET ME DIE PLEASE JUST -
Cliff: Thanks for that, Brian. Moving on to the new Taylor Swift/Charlie XCX combo album release...
I'm going to have to disagree wit you ion the aughts and lack of memorable content. What happened is that the shift moved from the box office to the small screen. This is when cable networks created their own series and they made some DAMNED good ones. The mid 2000's thru the early 2010's had some of the best small screen fiction ever made. They included
THE SPORANOS
SEX IN THE CITY
CURB YOUR ENTHUSIAMS
SOUTHPARK
THE SHIELD
MONK
DEADWOOD
ENTEROUGE
RESCUE ME
NIP/TUCK
BURN NOTICE
PSYCH
WQEEDS
DEXTER
TRUE BLOOD
MAD MEN
BREAKING BAD
THE OFFICE
BOARDWALK EMPIRE
From the networks we got:
CSI
LOST
GREYS ANATOMY
24
THE WEST WING
HOUSE
CRIMINAL MINDS
WITHOUT A TRACE
NCIS
IS that enough or do I need to go on?
A good number of those shows began in the late 90s though.
And it says a lot that, apart from Breaking Bad, Sex and the City, and Sopranos, nothing else has stuck in terms of pop cultural impact after they've ended. And South Park has spent the past few years Committing sudoku for previous episodes.
I think it's telling how the oughts were just the Bastard continuation of the 90s when a lot of the new material for these shows is just pablum and propaganda from Big Media on favor of Death Cult imperatives.
The story's point wasn't just about what's stuck but an over all lack of creativity/quality or at least that's what I got from it. I believe the regular repeat viewing of these on streaming platforms also makes them more prevalent today than you're giving them credit for. I believe the bigger issue is a loss across all of entertainment in general especially with music which did seem to go downhill starting then,
As I said the ought's had some incredible small screen content and just b/c a show started at the end of the 90s that doesn't make it a 90's show. I also don't believe as many of these are a part of the 90s as you think. I got this list from looking for top cable network shows in the 2000's followed by top network shows.
Lastly, I believe the lack of being able to monetize on these as they have past generations is less about the content and more about a change in attitudes. People used to by physical products, today they just stream. That's a HUGE change in consumer habits. The film industry use to could count on really good sell-thru post box office release via VHS then DVD and finally BluRay but not today. Even with people paying to stream something they still aren't doing it to the some volume as when they'd by a movie
And that doesn't address how only the three I mentioned have some level of lasting footprint in the culture, while the rest are forgotten
That's attributing something to these shows that simply doesn't exist.
You could have made an argument if you pointed out how Treasure Planet and Megamind became pop culturally relevant in the current epoch while missing the boat entirely during their premier's, but there's functionally nothing different from these movies with the animated films and series of the 00s.
Ditto television
For some reason the anti-rationalist posted but must have since deleted some replies to my comment b/c I have the email alerts but the replies are missing and its a shame b/c regardless if I agree with them or not they made some good points.